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2019-10-01 at 10:02 am #6839LoegaireParticipant@loegaire_buadachRank: Participating Member
Tir na nOg :
The Land Of Eternal Youth, best known from the tales of Oisin & Niamh, the Tir na nOg is another name for the Irish Otherworld, including the dominions of Tir Tairngire, (the land of promise), The Tir fo Thuinn, (the land beneath the ocean waves) Mag Mell (the plain of delight).
The Ildathach (the multi-coloured place of no grey mundaneness) Emain Ablach (The Mystical Isle Of Apples). Similar to the mythology in the Northern Celtic cultures of the Welsh Annwn, Hy Brasil to the West of Ireland, and the importance of apples, the fruits before the Samhain, and also the place of folkloric apples with the Norse-Gaelic.
Tir na nOg is depicted as an island of youthful paradise, where the wrinkles of age drop away revealing the children of Danann, a supernatural realm of everlasting youth, beauty, health, with abundance and joy, to engage in poetry, the music of lyrical poetry, various forms of entertainment, to satisfy the needs of diversity, and of course Gordon Bleu feasting.
Irish mythical heroes & heroines visited Tir na nOg, after sea voyages, responding to ancestral invitations from the ageless residence, the path across the Irish Sea was romantically expressed as. ‘Crossing the sea of honey with Manannan’s blessing’. Conjuring up ‘baili’, the visions of ecstasies, that might have an entirely different interpretation in our modern times.
The gods & goddesses that rule the Tir na nOg are said to be the first ancestors of the human race, benevolent in all deeds that they perform, who spend their days in ‘The Forested Wilderness Of Flowery Meadows’, which can be dangerous to hostile mortal visitors, where there is a Salmon Lake surrounded by 9 Hazel Trees.
Reference : The Bombastic Bard Oisin.
2019-09-27 at 4:09 am #6812BericParticipant@beric_debenkahRank: Honorary Scribe
The Vikings Of Ireland :
In 837AD, Viking fleets operated on the rivers Boyne & Liffey in central Ireland, and in 839 a large fleet was based on Lough Neagh in the north-east, the records indicate that the first permanent Norse settlements that were established in 841 were near the Irish settlement of Dublin & Annagassan.
Other fortified settlements were established in the following decades at Wexford, Waterford, Limerick & Cork, it is in this period that the leaders of the Irish-based Scandinavians are recorded by name.
Turgesius, who is proclaimed the conqueror of Ireland by Giraldus Cambrensis and a son of Harald Fairhair by the Scandinavian sagas, perhaps recorded in Latin, the written language of literacy at the time.
In 849AD, a new force appeared, possibly the Danes, who at this time were making in-roads to Anglo-Saxon England, the Danes activities were mainly directed towards their Norwegian cousins, as a major naval battle fought on Carlingford Lough in 853.
This conflict produced a victory for the Danes, in the same year as the Danish victory, there arrived another Fair-Haired naval warriors, lead by Amlaib, the son of the King of Laithlind, who had his eyes set on taking the Irish settlement of Dublin. There was frequent alliances between the Irish Kings and the Danish & Norwegian Vikings, after the taking of Dublin by Amlaib and his brother Imar.
Reference used : http://www.wikipedia.org
2019-05-29 at 1:20 pm #5103BericParticipant@beric_debenkahRank: Honorary Scribe
In Ireland 5,800 years ago, megalithic ‘portal tombs’, literally blind gateways to the Otherworld were still being construct as they were over the Irish Sea to Wales. Today these tombs can be recognised on the landscape, shorn of their earthly coverings, as Dolmens.
Contemporary with these, but outlasting them in fashion, was a more elaborate industrial type megalithic grave suited to repeated communal burials, the passage tomb, lined with massive, flat slabs. Northern Ireland saw a proliferation of local variants named court tombs or cairns, after the courtyard opening into passage ways.
Reference used : Stephen Oppenheimer.
Were The Romans Ever In Ireland ?
Taking the recorded dating as broadly accurate, another theory emerged, the Roam historian Tacitus mentions Agricalo (Farmer), while he was governor of Roman Britain, 78 – 84AD, entertained an exiled Irish prince, thinking to use him as a pretext for a possible conquest of Ireland.
Neither Agricola, nor his successor ever conquered Ireland, but with recent years of more advance archaeology has challenged the belief that the Romans never set foot on Irish soil, both Roman & Romano-British artefacts have been found primarily in the County Leinster, notably the fortified site, on the promontory of Drumanagh, 15 miles north of Dublin.
Also Roman & Romano-British burials have been discovered on the nearby island of Lambay, both close to where Tuathal landed in Irish mythology, and other sites associated with Tuathal such as the Hill of Tara & Clogher, however, whether this is evidence of trade, diplomacy, or military activity is a matter of controversy among historians.
It is possible that the Romans may have given support to Tuathal, or someone like him, to regain his throne in the interest of having a friendly neighbour who could restrain the Irish raiding of Roman Britain, in the 2nd century the Roman poet Juvenal who may have served in Roman Britain in the time of Agricola, wrote that, ‘Arms had been taken beyond Irish shores’.
Reference used : http://www.wikipedia.org
2019-05-29 at 1:08 pm #5102BericParticipant@beric_debenkahRank: Honorary Scribe
The tacit assumption, that still perpetuates, that all Britons were Celtic-speakers, while much of the Western and Northern British Isles were unarguably Celtic-speakers, as far as recorded records go, the same cannot be said about the Southern & Eastern counties, the Celtic language spoken in Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, Cumbria & Scotland, indeed, hundreds of inscriptions on stone, made in these parts after the Romans left, are ample evidence of a vibrant Celtic language.
But the stone inscriptions of the Southern & Eastern counties are of Latin and practically devoid of the Celtic language, although the Belgae Gallic had it’s similarities with the Latin tongue.
Reference Used : Stephen Oppenheimer.
The First Of The Goidels ?
The historian & scholar Thomas O’ Rahilly suggests that, as in many such ‘returned exile stories’, that appear in Irish history or mythology, Tuathal represented an entirely foreign invasion which established an Irish dynasty, whose earlier scribes fabricated the Irish origins of Tuathal to give him some spurious legitimacy.
In fact, Thomas proposed that Tuathal’s story could be pushed back to the 1st century BCE, represented as the invasion of the Goidels, who established themselves over the earlier populations and introduced the Q-Celtic language that would become Irish, and that their genealogists incorporated all Irish dynasties, Goidelic or otherwise, and their ancestral deities into a pedigree stretching back over a thousand years to the fictitious Mil Espaine, recent discoveries in DNA have back up Thomas’s theories.
Reference Used : http://www.wikipedia.org
2019-05-29 at 12:16 pm #5101BericParticipant@beric_debenkahRank: Honorary Scribe
Ireland & Britain were first recolonized in the Late Mesolithic, they were still connected (until 8,500 years ago) by dry land across what is now the North Sea & the English Channel to the mainland European Continent, Ireland, Wales, Cornwall & Wessex had benefited by the Celtic Atlantic culture and ingenuity from the south for 10,000 years, a culture that was not touched in the Eastern parts of England.
Even today, with the land-bridge gone, the ferries persist between Dover & Calais, Cornwall & Brittany, so after the ice, Ireland & the British Isles were colonized by two different parts of Western Europe, the two geographical trails creating routes of cultural and genetic affiliations throughout prehistory.
An isolated group of hunter-gatherers on the Dingle Peninsula of South-West Ireland left polished Neolithic stone axes dating from 6,000 years ago. Neolithic sites appear in Ireland at both Ballynagilly & Carrowmore, the traditional building of large stone monuments are identical to those of Brittany.
The ideas of the Brythonic speakers in Ireland are also bound up with legendary concepts of prehistoric invasions in to Ireland. Not the least used sources is the traditional written Irish Goidelic Records, in particular the ‘Lebor Gabala Erren’, drawing on the oldest traditions of all from the Celtic language, which records four invasions including the Cruithni (Priteni or Picts) and the Firbolgs (Erainn)who comprised of three groups from either Greece or Spain.
These invasions are all supposed to have occurred before the final invasion of the Gaelic Milesians, also from either Greece or Spain, however there are linguistic similarities between the Gaelic and the prehistoric Iberian-Celtic languages, while the Brythonic seems similar with the Gauls.
References used : Barry Cunliffe & Stephen Oppenheimer.
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